Those track forums are hilarious

[Jangle]

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Xprezib
Thanks but its Victor is Genius even speedbuff
Mon Jul 27, 2009 04:45
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is mystified by this puzzle ..Trust mi ..



But here is what i think happened thou ..


The testers got samples from Jamaica or Jadco .They being desparate to get us tried everything to detect a fault ..They saw something and was excited ..Teddy got involved and told them to pursue it because he wanted to look good with his kiss ass self ..A group of athletes showed something but the testers thought they were from one camp because they were too dumb to know that not all Jamaicans train in Jamaica . They sent the numbers to Jamaica for the names and created a invisible banned category..A rogue Jadco person saw the set up and wittingly leaked the info ( i say wittingly because it gave the athletes a chance to still go to the WC and for the stink to occur before the team went to Berlin ) ...


All this is speculation without facts ..i am trying to unravel the puzzle guys so bare with me ..I wonder if the athletes can fax their excuses and the JAAA announce their public warning over the news .that would save a lot of money and time ..

[Islandman]

All this is speculation without facts

Good thing I saw that part. I would never have figured that. LOL!

Look like them have some creative minds over there.

[Bricktop]

Look like them have some creative minds over there.

How much more creative can you get than a coffee and chocolate orgy?

[Jangle]

From next door:



Nondescript
My take on what happened
Mon Jul 27, 2009 21:36
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Lab to JADA.....we've found 5 samples with elevated levels of this substance..which is MONITORED IN COMPETITION.

Some fool sees or hears about this and decides it's a positive result.

Trying to seem important....they leak it to the press....and now we have this whole circus.

I've spoken to a lecturer at the Department of Chemistry at UWI who is very interested in the outcome, because he also is of the opinion that once caffeine is NOT prohibited, NEITHER CAN IT'S DERIVATIVES.

In any case..a look at the list will show that just below caffeine are other substances that are not prohibited providing they fall below certain parameters...NO PARAMETERS WERE ENUNCIATED for caffeine.

Hey I'm just a layman...but I hope even one of the athletes decide to fight tyhis and not take the public warning like that...THERE IS NO EXPLICIT OR IMPLICT EVIDENCE THAT THIS SUBSTANCE IS BANNED.....the equivalent of 5 cups of coffee every day for one week before the trials would have done the trick

[Islandman]

Was Carl Lewis a druggist or not?

"It was revealed that Carl Lewis tested positive three times before the 1988 Olympics for pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, and phenylpropanolamine, banned stimulants and bronchiodilators also found in cold medication, and had been banned from the Seoul Olympics and from competition for six months. The USOC accepted his claim of inadvertent use and overturned the decision."

[Bricktop]

Was Carl Lewis a druggist or not?

"It was revealed that Carl Lewis tested positive three times before the 1988 Olympics for pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, and phenylpropanolamine, banned stimulants and bronchiodilators also found in cold medication, and had been banned from the Seoul Olympics and from competition for six months. The USOC accepted his claim of inadvertent use and overturned the decision."

Addicted to chocolate maybe?

[Gamma]

inhalers by the looks of it...

[Sir X]

Poor Brick ....guess who say this ......

went on to describe methylxanthines as "bronchodilators [opening airways making it easier to breathe] and diuretic agents [sometimes used by athletes as masking agents]". He, however, said it would be "fairly easy" for an athlete accidently to consume a product containing methylxanthines and test positive.

[Sir X]

The ultimate drug chemist speaks.
Three of five Jamaican athletes who tested positive are now known

• The 400m runners Fothergill and Spence are named
• 'Concentrations in samples probably high,' says Conte

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• guardian.co.uk, Monday 27 July 2009 17.43 BST
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Balco founder Victor Conte believes Jamacian athletes may have taken a 'relatively high' amount of the banned substance methylxanthine. Photograph: George Nikitin/AP

The names of three of the five Jamaicans known to have tested positive for a banned substance are now in the public domain after two more athletes confirmed they had been notified of their results. Allodin Fothergill and Lansford Spence – both 400m runners who were in Jamaica's 4x400m relay squad at last year's Olympics – tested positive for methylxanthine, a substance not explicitly listed on the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) prohibited list but falling within a category of stimulants banned by the agency. The Commonwealth Games 100m champion Sheri-Ann Brooks has also received notification.
Usain Bolt's training partner Yohan Blake, 19, has been named by an official source although the sprinter has thus far refused to speak about it. None of the five was a medallist in Beijing but all had been selected for next month's World Championship team.
Commenting on the case, Victor Conte, the man behind the Balco clinic that supplied disgraced athletes Dwain Chambers and Marion Jones, said: "The quantitative amounts of the drug may play a huge role in the outcomes of these Jamaican doping cases.
"If the concentrations of methylxanthine and/or its metabolites were high, then they may have been using this substance to enhance their performances. If the concentrations found were consistent with someone unknowingly using the substance, then a reasonable explanation may get them a public warning. However, it seems probable that the concentrations found in the samples of these athletes may have been relatively high and that is why doping charges were brought against them."
The amount of methylxanthine found has not been officially confirmed yet, although some media are reporting a "trace". The hearing is expected to be held on Wednesday by the Jamaica Amateur Athletics Association (JAAA), if B sample results are available in time. According to a Jamaican official, the case could go either way. "If they can give a satisfactory explanation of how this was found in their system, they could receive a public warning but, if it is felt it was used to gain an unfair advantage, then they could get a two-year ban."
In Jamaica there has been a mixed response to the news. While the prime minister, Bruce Golding, called an emergency summit over the weekend Dr Herb Elliott of the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission played down the findings as "nothing major". But according to Conte, who in 2005 pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids and went on to serve four months in prison, methylxanthine possesses a number of performance enhancing qualities. "There is no question that methylxanthines can reduce fatigue and enhance athletic performance at appropriate dosages," he added.
Conte went on to describe methylxanthines as "bronchodilators [opening airways making it easier to breathe] and diuretic agents [sometimes used by athletes as masking agents]". He, however, said it would be "fairly easy" for an athlete accidently to consume a product containing methylxanthines and test positive.

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Three of five Jamaican athletes who tested positive are now known

• The 400m runners Fothergill and Spence are named
• 'Concentrations in samples probably high,' says Conte

The names of three of the five Jamaicans known to have tested positive for a banned substance are now in the public domain after two more athletes confirmed they had been notified of their results. Allodin Fothergill and Lansford Spence – both 400m runners who were in Jamaica's 4x400m relay squad at last year's Olympics – tested positive for methylxanthine, a substance not explicitly listed on the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) prohibited list but falling within a category of stimulants banned by the agency. The Commonwealth Games 100m champion Sheri-Ann Brooks has also received notification.
Usain Bolt's training partner Yohan Blake, 19, has been named by an official source although the sprinter has thus far refused to speak about it. None of the five was a medallist in Beijing but all had been selected for next month's World Championship team.
Commenting on the case, Victor Conte, the man behind the Balco clinic that supplied disgraced athletes Dwain Chambers and Marion Jones, said: "The quantitative amounts of the drug may play a huge role in the outcomes of these Jamaican doping cases.
"If the concentrations of methylxanthine and/or its metabolites were high, then they may have been using this substance to enhance their performances. If the concentrations found were consistent with someone unknowingly using the substance, then a reasonable explanation may get them a public warning. However, it seems probable that the concentrations found in the samples of these athletes may have been relatively high and that is why doping charges were brought against them."
The amount of methylxanthine found has not been officially confirmed yet, although some media are reporting a "trace". The hearing is expected to be held on Wednesday by the Jamaica Amateur Athletics Association (JAAA), if B sample results are available in time. According to a Jamaican official, the case could go either way. "If they can give a satisfactory explanation of how this was found in their system, they could receive a public warning but, if it is felt it was used to gain an unfair advantage, then they could get a two-year ban."
In Jamaica there has been a mixed response to the news. While the prime minister, Bruce Golding, called an emergency summit over the weekend Dr Herb Elliott of the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission played down the findings as "nothing major". But according to Conte, who in 2005 pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids and went on to serve four months in prison, methylxanthine possesses a number of performance enhancing qualities. "There is no question that methylxanthines can reduce fatigue and enhance athletic performance at appropriate dosages," he added.
Conte went on to describe methylxanthines as "bronchodilators [opening airways making it easier to breathe] and diuretic agents [sometimes used by athletes as masking agents]". He, however, said it would be "fairly easy" for an athlete accidently to consume a product containing methylxanthines and test positive.

[Bricktop]

Poor Brick ....guess who say this ......

Victor Conte, the bastion of truth and honesty?

[Sickko]

Maybe he is a devious prick but guess what...how many of his former clients tested positive for the Clear?

And how can we be certain he is still not in business?