Maurice Greene.

[Willi]

Read these threads for background and details.

http://z15.invisionfree.com/SprintZo...showtopic=3057

http://z15.invisionfree.com/SprintZo...showtopic=3133

http://z15.invisionfree.com/SprintZo...showtopic=3165


Plus here is the letter allegedly written by Ato:

This letter circluating around was allegedly written by a former member of HSI.

To Benedict Arnold, aka the Great Betrayer .

I was so eagerly anticipating the meeting that was supposed to happen among you and I and Emanuel in Texas, so I could say this all to your face, since it's been brewing inside me for 4 months, but apparently his "Highness" Nawaf, another insufferable, know-it-all, piece of excrement, was more happy to over-eat and get publicly drunk with you (as usual) and pretend "it's all good" in LA-LA Land . Oh, yes, he did find the time to beg me for an hour to "please come up with a plan to save your black Rectus humongus" since you are, in his words, "unintelligent and would not survive for very long if this all goes down badly" . Imagine that . Me bail you out? For what? My own coach, doping my competition while he smiles in my face and preaches the "we are clean and they are not" gospel . DAILY .
Poor JD was right all along . Of course you favored one horse above all others - you WOW .
Thank God for the opportunity to be rid of both you and Nawaf in one fell swoop .
Integrity .
Loyalty .
Honor . Look them up in the dictionary . You preach it daily to your athletes and to anyone who will listen to you go on and on about nothing . They aren't stupid, they WILL figure you out . Most already have .

Since neither you nor the so-called "GOAT" has had the balls to sit down one-on-one with me (at any time in the past 4 months!!) OR EVEN PICK UP A PHONE TO CALL and explain anything about what you all conspired to do without anyone else's knowledge in the group, (and in turn, now taint everyone who has ever worked with you, even if they decided not to go this DRUG route) and I have to read it in the paper, even though I already know not just what the paper said, but way, way more, this, I guess is what it has to come to . AN HONEST E-MAIL, from someone who has been around you for

This, from three "men" who walk around like they are alpha-males, king-dick-swingers, the leaders of the pack . Larry, I can understand . He is incapable of doing anything but following his Rectus humongus with his nose or being a King George Bush 2-up . His whole life is testament to that . You and Maurice, well, history will certainly record you two accurately, I hope .
The first mistake the three of you made was pretending any of you was capable of any leadership worth a sorrowful cent . If you could lead anything, there wouldn't be need for Emanuel Hudson, whether or not your ego allows you to accept that . That's why I have to laugh at how brilliant this "plan" was from the get-go . Three idiots, who think they are so much smarter than the whole world . Wires from personal bank accounts, packages arriving to Onacrest Drive , personal emails, personal phone calls .

ABSOLUTELY brilliant work!

I was thinking last night that it's a good thing you 3 didn't plan to rob a bank, because you would all NOW be doing hard time, with your dumb asses .

And yet, knowing that this was coming since 2007, NONE of you have even picked up the phone to call me to say "ay, man I know you heard such and such, and this is the situation" . No, it's not like we were on the same team, or part of the same "family", right? It's not like I didn't spend the past 13 years defending anyone who dared to talk about anyone in my camp or in my group . I never did that, right? Donovan opened his mouth to DARE talk about my "boy" Maurice, and I was on him in a flash, why because when you are down, when you have each other's backs, that is what REAL MEN do - they back each other up, not King George Bush 2 each other over . Donovan was right too . My bad for thinking that I could trust any of you or believe a word you said .

I vouched for everyone . When Larry's Rectus humongus went down (of course that mystery positive of his isn't so mysterious now, is it?) it was my house that I called the meeting to, because if one was going through anything WE ALL WERE . But he is already on his way out in more ways than one, he just doesn't know it . . . . or maybe he does . . . . .

HSI is the best thing that ever happened to you, and you couldn't help but King George Bush 2 that up, could you? You are a walking tragedy . Now you will be back to less than the alternative . Remember what you had and how you got where you are about to go, Mr . Smith . Reality is about to smack you in the face .

I might have an ounce of respect left for either of the two of you, the "GOAT" or yourself, if you had called me up when this first broke to at least attempt to explain - like MEN - who are supposedly down for each other, do . You knew I knew, and yet both of you have done what you do best . Huddle in a corner and hide, and not let the people closest to you know you King George Bush 2ed up, so maybe they could either 1)help in the thinking department which clearly IS NOT a strong-point for any of you, or 2) watch their own asses . So manly of you . Just pretend it will all go away and no one will remember . Ah, but karma is a princess . Maurice is already finding that out, and quick! Woman, house, cars, lifestyle, career, money, future, everything, GONE!

Imagine you are laughing and joking with me every single day on the track for months this year, and you knew damn well I know what I know, and you are totally cool with that . . . . as though I'm some kind of sorrowful idiot - not once have you said a word about any of this . . . . . "duck and run" as usual . You have become so good at it, too . Must be the years of practice .

Now, we all are embarrassed and forever stained because of you and your slap! . And just in case you, too, think "you took a chance on me in '95" as Darrell so eloquently put it (yeah, a 20 year-old who came to you with international medals and running 10 . 07 - big chance that was!) remember I took a chance on you long before, because I didn't come to you with drug baggage - you were the one with the rumors and the stuff in the book . I came anyway, because I believed all that slap! you were selling about "drug-free", and since I never saw it in my face, I could actually believe it . Drug Free, my Rectus humongus . You are an older Trevor Graham . PERIOD - on a different coast of the USA - and that isn't easy for me to say, because you know what I think about Trevor . You think running to West Angeles Church every time you are about to get caught will solve something? I went to West Angeles for 10 years and probably saw you twice . God has a message for you, JS, "Don't give drugs to people's children! Steer them away from it if they ask you, too!"

There's your salvation!

Look around you . Everything around you is withering and/or dying . How can that be? You have won not a single medal that matters since 2004, and not a clean one since 2003 (poor Torri) . Is it because you have sowed nothing but poison and deceit your entire life, and now the brief stay you had "at the top" is now over? Say what you want about me and my failure to win the BIG ones, but I did it cleanly, and I can look you or anyone else in the face, not to mention myself in the mirror, for the rest of my life . I know that, and so DO YOU . But it all makes sense now - This is why you were unceremoniously removed from UCLA . This is why Kerron Clement and just about everyone else who would be considered top-notch talent for years now is steering WAY clear of you . Maybe you don't get that . I think you will now .

I realize it now, and it's sad to see what you have become . You used to be a hero of mine . Now I wouldn't want my dog to **************** on you if you were on fire . That ain't no emotional nothing, either, brother, that is REAL TALK . Man to man, the way you should have come at me from the jump . It's that much disgust . That's what happens when a black man you look up to deceives you for years, while pretending and smiling in your face .

John Smith the great "sprint guru" is nothing but the emperor with no clothes . No, wait a minute, we know you can coach someone to 9 . 86 x4 and 19 . 77 . The rest I can't vouch for, ever .

Naked . . . . .

. . . with a big vial of drugs, slap! theories and hypocrisy by the pound behind the curtain . Now we all understand why you always had to go run over and kiss Trevor's Rectus humongus every damn where when you KNEW we didn't trust him . Now I understand why, despite the fact that he raided your camp, talks about your deteriorating coaching skills and basically plays you for a fool, you are always in Larry Wade's face yukking it up . Enjoy that . Birds of a feather . . . .

This case in the NY Times is not some mistake, some "oops" moment, some misstep, some one-time weakness, it's a pattern, and going back to the stuff written about you in Speed Trap after 1988, right up to you know who in 2007, almost 20 years later - nothing has changed - and what that most recent case reveals about what you ARE and ARE not willing to do, of course while preaching the usual JOHN SMITH slap! - is that this is who you are and what you are and how you operate . Stop pretending it isn't . Imagine, I doubt now whether a single one of the people whose careers I respect, was likely clean, if you were their coach .

Not Q, not Steve, not any of them . Imagine K . Young is calling around now to find out how far back they can "check excrement" . . . . . why would he be doing that, you think?

Let me cut to the chase, as it concerns your ultimate betrayal, as you doped my competition and my teammates while professing to the world (and of course to me) that you were the "drug free coach" . When you see me somewhere, just pretend you don't . You are dead to me .

Don't mention my name, don't have a single thing to say about me, because to me you are the scum of the earth, the ultimate deceiver, who preaches one thing and lives another .

We have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God . The difference is, I would never King George Bush 2 any of you over the way you have, to everyone who now has to answer for your slap! while you remain quiet, hoping it will all blow over . It won't and your name will likely be the next name called, so don't think you got off because your name isn't in this one .



If you think things seem "rough" now, imagine where you will be in ten years time .

You've earned it! You can't sow deceit and reap success and prosperity - and if you do, its very fleeting . You of all people should know that . Yet nothing changes . Still trying to get people on the stuff, huh, JS? (Of course while the others know nothing of it) . I pray God rescues your soul, my "brother" .

P . S . In case you think somehow this email is somehow a reason for me to not have to confront you face to face, think again .

I realized, in 4 months, that you have no intention of confronting any of your own demons, and certainly not little old silly me, since you actually now believe your own slap! (it's ok, I did for some time, as well) so why should I bother . You can discard this when you are done reading it, as I have discarded the mirage that passed for most of the family and relationships that existed within HSI . Don't try to say excrement to me now in any way shape or form . You had your chance to say something since December, or maybe when this brilliant plan was concocted so I could have exited then (as I tried to in 2002 - note to self always trust your instincts!) but you were content to play me for a further fool . Pretend you don't see me when we are in public, because I will certainly do the same . Anything to the contrary and we are going to have a problem, and so will everyone else around .

You all made your bed . I will be RIGHT here to watch you burn in it, and there ain't a fire extinguisher that will put this one out .


You want to King George Bush 2 people over and plot behind people's backs? So be it . Now you deal with the repercussions .

Change your ways, John . Hypocrisy will be early death of you . Mark my words . You can't speak one thing and live another .

R . I . P . H . S . I

[Jangle]

Is it just me or did the rest of athletics forumite missed this one? I am shocked!!!


04/12/2008

Mexican steroids/HGH dealer threatens to blow the spikes off track and field: Names Maurice Greene as a doper


The New York Times -- fresh off the press -- says that a Mexican ex-athlete, and big-time steroid/dope dealer will blow the top off track and field when he testifies at the Trevor Graham trial. Angel Guillermo Heredia claims to substantial evidence that implicates 12 T & F athletes who won 26 Olympic medals and 21 world championships (Heredia and Graham in photo left below). Four names are known dopers, and 8 will be novel drug users. The biggest new name: Maurice Greene. (A New York Times editorial calls for an end to the Olympic Games) (Update: Not Mo Greene's first brush with doping)

When one of the most successful coaches in the history of track and field goes on trial next month in the long-running federal investigation into doping in sports (ed note: Trevor Graham, charged with three counts of making false statements to federal agents) lawyers for both sides are prepared to reveal that cheating in track is far more widespread than previously known...

Angel Guillermo Heredia is identified as Source A in the felony indictment. He agreed to be a cooperating witness three years ago when, according to court filings, investigators confronted him with evidence of his drug trafficking and money laundering. Since then, Mr. Heredia said, he has provided prosecutors with documentation and with the names of many elite track athletes and Olympic medal winners...

Among his clients, Mr. Heredia identified 12 athletes who had won a combined 26 Olympic medals and 21 world championships. Four of the 12 athletes, including Ms. Jones, had been named and barred from competition for illicit drug use. Eight of the 12 — notably, the sprinter Maurice Greene — have never been previously linked to performance-enhancing drugs.

Mr. Greene, a two-time Olympic gold medalist and a five-time world champion, has never failed a drug test.

Greene is a former world-record holder in the 100M. The Times article extensively documents Heredia's situation, although Greene is the only athlete named. Among other points:

• The Feds have been working with Heredia for 3 years
• Heredia kept extensive records detailing his accusations about athletes
• Heredia dealt HGH EPO, and testosterone, all of which he said were easy to sneak past drug-testers
• The dealer cooperated with IRS agent Jeff Novitzky

Heredia gets specific with Greene:

Mr. Heredia told prosecutors in December 2006 and The Times recently that Mr. Greene had paid him a total of about $40,000, including the $10,000 wire transfer, for advice and steroid creams, EPO, insulin and stimulants in 2003 and 2004. Mr. Greene had already won two Olympic gold medals when Mr. Heredia said Mr. Greene first contacted him after the 2002 track season. By then, Mr. Greene had lost the title “world’s fastest man” to Tim Montgomery and was also losing races to Dwain Chambers; court records later showed that those sprinters were being helped by taking Balco drugs.

(more after the jump)


Another big name, Coach Raymond Stewart:

An e-mail message from July 2003 from Mr. Heredia to Raymond Stewart, a track coach in Texas who was a silver medalist in the 4x100 relay for Jamaica at the 1984 Olympics, described the drugs Mr. Heredia had recommended for two of Mr. Stewart’s runners. It referred to bottles of “g,” another shorthand for growth hormone, and testosterone. Reached by phone at his home, Mr. Stewart initially denied knowing Mr. Heredia. But after being provided with a copy of the 2003 message, he said that they had met. Mr. Stewart also said that he had rejected the drugs Mr. Heredia offered in the note. “We don’t do that,” Mr. Stewart said.

Watch this scandal as it develops. Considering the fame of the alleged athletes this could be BALCO II.

[Sickko]

Its you...

[Jangle]

hehe.....mek me hear from the rest because me know your job gives you access to "breaking news".

[Islandman]

No boss, me neva know Raymond name call.

This is why as much as I still enjoy T&F I will never love it as much as I did before the Ben Johnson scandal in 1984. Simply put, very little surprises me anymore.

[Jangle]

that is why the IAAF is pinning their hope for its revival on Bolt.