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  • #1

    Bolting into perspective

    It was somewhat prescient of Usain to say that he felt he was ready to run 9.85 and not 9.76.... adjusting for wind he did indeed run 9.85

    Asafa's 9.78 semi before his WR in Italy last year is actually a more impressive peformance than the 9.74 as the adjustments below suggest.

    All the best to Usain...sprinting to a new level


    Adjusting for wind/altitude, using the Big Gold Book tables, Bolt's time (9.85) is =No. 12 ever.

    This list as compiled by Charley Shaffer:

    Adj. Real WindName Site DatePos. Meet
    9.79 9.78 0.0Asafa Powell Rieti 9-Sep-2007 1GP
    9.80 9.79 +0.1Maurice Greene Athens 16-Jun-1999 1r3GP II WR
    9.81 9.80 +0.2-----Greene Seville 22-Aug-1999 1WCh
    9.82 9.84 -0.5Tyson Gay Indianapolis 22-Jun-2007 1USATF
    9.82 9.85 -0.5-----Gay Osaka 26-Aug-2007 1WCh
    9.82 9.84 -0.3-----Powell Brussels 14-Sep-2007 1
    9.82 9.83 -0.3-----Powell Stuttgart 22-Sep-2007 1WAF
    9.83 9.82 -0.2-----Greene Edmonton 5-Aug-2001 1WCh
    9.83 9.77 +1.0-----Powell Zurich 18-Aug-2006 1rAGP =WR
    9.83 9.86 -0.5-----Powell Berlin 3-Sep-2006 1
    9.83 9.74 +1.7-----Powell Rieti 9-Sep-2007 1h2GP WR
    9.85 9.79 +1.1Ben Johnson Seoul 24-Sep-1988 1OG WR
    9.85 9.86 -0.4Ato Boldon Athens 17-Jun-1998 1
    9.85 9.84 +0.2Bruny Surin Seville 22-Aug-1999 2WCh
    9.85 9.86 -0.2-----Greene Berlin 1-Sep-2000 1r1ISTAF
    9.85 9.87 -0.3-----Greene Sydney 23-Sep-2000 1OG
    9.85 9.77 +1.6-----Powell Athens 14-Jun-2005 1 WR
    9.85 9.77 +1.7Justin Gatlin Doha 12-May-2006 1 =WR
    9.85 9.77 +1.5-----Powell Gateshead 11-Jun-2006 1 =WR
    9.85 9.76 +1.8Usain Bolt Kingston 3-May-2008 1


    I'm not clear on how this particular analyst ranks the 9.85 adjusted time as the 12th fastest- I count only 5 faster times by 3 athletes including the soon to be discredited Mo Greene.
    Last edited by Don1; May 8, 2008, 06:31 PM.
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  • #2
    Still a very good run from someone who hasn't ran many 100s
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Assasin View Post
      Still a very good run from someone who hasn't ran many 100s
      You believe I was negating that?
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      • #4
        Good info!


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        • #5
          No, but I am still very impressed by his run.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Assasin View Post
            No, but I am still very impressed by his run.
            As am I.
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            • #7
              you remember a few years ago we all did a wonder if him done? If he was going to be another one a them great high school athlete who fade away?

              That make it even better.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                Still a very good run from someone who hasn't ran many 100s
                very good is a severe understatement.
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                • #9
                  Yes, but that was because of his back injury related to his growing too fast for his own use or whatever it was. It did look like that was going to be the end.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Don1 View Post
                    It was somewhat prescient of Usain to say that he felt he was ready to run 9.85 and not 9.76.... adjusting for wind he did indeed run 9.85

                    Asafa's 9.78 semi before his WR in Italy last year is actually a more impressive peformance than the 9.74 as the adjustments below suggest.

                    All the best to Usain...sprinting to a new level


                    Adjusting for wind/altitude, using the Big Gold Book tables, Bolt's time (9.85) is =No. 12 ever.

                    This list as compiled by Charley Shaffer:

                    Adj. Real WindName Site DatePos. Meet
                    9.79 9.78 0.0Asafa Powell Rieti 9-Sep-2007 1GP
                    9.80 9.79 +0.1Maurice Greene Athens 16-Jun-1999 1r3GP II WR
                    9.81 9.80 +0.2-----Greene Seville 22-Aug-1999 1WCh
                    9.82 9.84 -0.5Tyson Gay Indianapolis 22-Jun-2007 1USATF
                    9.82 9.85 -0.5-----Gay Osaka 26-Aug-2007 1WCh
                    9.82 9.84 -0.3-----Powell Brussels 14-Sep-2007 1
                    9.82 9.83 -0.3-----Powell Stuttgart 22-Sep-2007 1WAF
                    9.83 9.82 -0.2-----Greene Edmonton 5-Aug-2001 1WCh
                    9.83 9.77 +1.0-----Powell Zurich 18-Aug-2006 1rAGP =WR
                    9.83 9.86 -0.5-----Powell Berlin 3-Sep-2006 1
                    9.83 9.74 +1.7-----Powell Rieti 9-Sep-2007 1h2GP WR
                    9.85 9.79 +1.1Ben Johnson Seoul 24-Sep-1988 1OG WR
                    9.85 9.86 -0.4Ato Boldon Athens 17-Jun-1998 1
                    9.85 9.84 +0.2Bruny Surin Seville 22-Aug-1999 2WCh
                    9.85 9.86 -0.2-----Greene Berlin 1-Sep-2000 1r1ISTAF
                    9.85 9.87 -0.3-----Greene Sydney 23-Sep-2000 1OG
                    9.85 9.77 +1.6-----Powell Athens 14-Jun-2005 1 WR
                    9.85 9.77 +1.7Justin Gatlin Doha 12-May-2006 1 =WR
                    9.85 9.77 +1.5-----Powell Gateshead 11-Jun-2006 1 =WR
                    9.85 9.76 +1.8Usain Bolt Kingston 3-May-2008 1


                    I'm not clear on how this particular analyst ranks the 9.85 adjusted time as the 12th fastest- I count only 5 faster times by 3 athletes including the soon to be discredited Mo Greene.
                    Fastest Times!
                    Not fastest persons!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Karl View Post
                      Fastest Times!
                      Not fastest persons!
                      I don't get this.... there are 5 faster adjusted times according to the table ... where does the 12th come from?
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                      • #12
                        It appears that they have ranked the 9.85 12th since it is twelfth on the list... whoever is ranked at 9.86 would presumably be 21st as collectively a faster time than his would have been run 20 times regardless of ties... just like when you came 3rd in class (tied), the next highest average was fifth.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Peter R View Post
                          It appears that they have ranked the 9.85 12th since it is twelfth on the list... whoever is ranked at 9.86 would presumably be 21st as collectively a faster time than his would have been run 20 times regardless of ties... just like when you came 3rd in class (tied), the next highest average was fifth.

                          pr
                          That's it!
                          "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Peter R View Post
                            It appears that they have ranked the 9.85 12th since it is twelfth on the list... whoever is ranked at 9.86 would presumably be 21st as collectively a faster time than his would have been run 20 times regardless of ties... just like when you came 3rd in class (tied), the next highest average was fifth.

                            pr
                            ok I see ... but that formula is ridiculous (to me).

                            Bolt is tied with 8 others for the sixth fastest adjusted time.... that makes way more sense (to me).
                            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                            • #15
                              You probably need to advise them about common practice when ranking times.

                              Don't know why these organizations don't check with you rather than just making up new conventions.

                              Can you imagine rewarding someone for doing something first..

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